Now (in the BBC report), she claims that she was tortured and later gang-raped on three occasions, each time by two or three men.
Also, in the first interview, she told that "Police told the women to take off their necklaces and earrings.", but now she says that her earrings were yanked out, causing her ears to bleed.
2) Sayragul Sautbay told the BBC that "rape was common" and the guards "picked the girls and young women they wanted and took them away".
Hey there! I certainly don't doubt that there may be discrepancies in the stories of some of the victims, but I'm not really sure what that "proves." The evidence of the internment camps and the CCP's role in "re-educating" people is overwhelming. We have satelitte images, CCP documents, firsthand testimony of survivors and more.
There are certainly views from the Chinese government about what international bodies should do about what happens inside their country, but the evidence of the human rights crimes they are committing is overwhelming.
The stories of the so-called victims are not just discrepant - there are very few interviewees and their story is getting worse and worse over time.
Tursunay Ziyawudun and Sayragul Sautbay, the two most important sources of the story of the BBC alleged systematic rape, abuse and torture in the BBC report, but in their previous interviews with different newspapers (Buzzfeed News in 2020 and The Globe and Mail in 2018, respectively), they explicitly mentioned that they have NOT seen abuse, rape or any form of violence.
The BBC DID NOT even mention these pieces of information - the fact that the stories of the alleged victims were completely different 1-2 years ago - in their report, which seems to be a violation of journalistic principles and rumormongering.
Also, in her 2020 interview Ziyawudun mentions that she was released from the camp and a few months later, they gave her back her passport, probably because her husband campaigned for her in Kazahstan.
I find it REALLY difficult to believe that the Chinese government would let someone go out of the country who was systematically raped and abused by Chinese officials, especially if they are really performing a genocide.
This video about empty streets is misleading. The biggest part of Kashgar was rebuilt and people moved to the renovated areas, so it's no surprise the old parts - which are shown in the video - are abandoned.
You can some big buildings in the background between 1:50-2:00 and 15:00-15:05, but these were not visited by the tourist (I ask why?).
The video of the Guardian depicts a prisoner transfer, but there is no proof whatsoever that they are Uyghurs. There is a text written on the back of their vests. According to the Chinese, it's "Kashi Detention House", which suggests that they are simple prisoners.
I think that you should have also presented China's viewpoint because this story is not so simple as it looks at first glance.
For instance, the testimonies of the 'survivors' are constantly changing and their stories are getting darker and darker, so probably they are lying.
Two examples of contradictory testimonies:
1) Tursunay Ziyawudun gave an interview to the Buzzfeed News on February 15, 2020, and she said "I wasn’t beaten or abused": https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/china-uighur-xinjiang-kazakhstan
Now (in the BBC report), she claims that she was tortured and later gang-raped on three occasions, each time by two or three men.
Also, in the first interview, she told that "Police told the women to take off their necklaces and earrings.", but now she says that her earrings were yanked out, causing her ears to bleed.
2) Sayragul Sautbay told the BBC that "rape was common" and the guards "picked the girls and young women they wanted and took them away".
It's difficult to believe this because in 2018 she gave an interview to the Globe and Mail where she said that she had not personally seen violence, although she had seen hunger and there was no meat to eat: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-everyone-was-silent-endlessly-mute-former-chinese-re-education/
However, even her claim about hunger (in this earlier interview) is very-very doubtful, because in a recent interview she said that they were forced to eat meat: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/4/holduighurs-forced-to-eat-pork-as-hog-farming-in-xinjiang-expands
Hey there! I certainly don't doubt that there may be discrepancies in the stories of some of the victims, but I'm not really sure what that "proves." The evidence of the internment camps and the CCP's role in "re-educating" people is overwhelming. We have satelitte images, CCP documents, firsthand testimony of survivors and more.
Satellite images: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/china-new-internment-camps-xinjiang-uighurs-muslims
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/23/china-footage-reveals-hundreds-of-blindfolded-and-shackled-prisoners-uighur
Empty streets in Xinjiang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq_x9IgqoFQ
Leaked CCP documents detailing their plans: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html
A data collection of all this info:
https://xjdp.aspi.org.au
There are certainly views from the Chinese government about what international bodies should do about what happens inside their country, but the evidence of the human rights crimes they are committing is overwhelming.
The stories of the so-called victims are not just discrepant - there are very few interviewees and their story is getting worse and worse over time.
Tursunay Ziyawudun and Sayragul Sautbay, the two most important sources of the story of the BBC alleged systematic rape, abuse and torture in the BBC report, but in their previous interviews with different newspapers (Buzzfeed News in 2020 and The Globe and Mail in 2018, respectively), they explicitly mentioned that they have NOT seen abuse, rape or any form of violence.
The BBC DID NOT even mention these pieces of information - the fact that the stories of the alleged victims were completely different 1-2 years ago - in their report, which seems to be a violation of journalistic principles and rumormongering.
Also, in her 2020 interview Ziyawudun mentions that she was released from the camp and a few months later, they gave her back her passport, probably because her husband campaigned for her in Kazahstan.
I find it REALLY difficult to believe that the Chinese government would let someone go out of the country who was systematically raped and abused by Chinese officials, especially if they are really performing a genocide.
This video about empty streets is misleading. The biggest part of Kashgar was rebuilt and people moved to the renovated areas, so it's no surprise the old parts - which are shown in the video - are abandoned.
You can some big buildings in the background between 1:50-2:00 and 15:00-15:05, but these were not visited by the tourist (I ask why?).
Here is another video which shows that there is life in Kashgar, just not in the 'ruined' part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkeTkd4okQ0
The video of the Guardian depicts a prisoner transfer, but there is no proof whatsoever that they are Uyghurs. There is a text written on the back of their vests. According to the Chinese, it's "Kashi Detention House", which suggests that they are simple prisoners.