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HCD's avatar

I don't understand why we can't let organizations do some good in the world, even when they don't align with all of the prevailing beliefs/ideology of the day. If the organization was a Sunni Muslim children's organization instead of a Catholic one, would we be having the same conversation? Would the city of Philadelphia have refused to work with them? (I picked Sunni because the ideological lines on homosexuality are similar.) I am very wary of moving towards a state in which there is no diversity of thought or tolerance of difference of opinion and belief. Forced ideology and/or theology in the name of unity is cultish and tyrannical. It feels like we're living in a cultural moment where it's not enough to be tolerant of another's different beliefs and say "that's not for me, I disagree" - a mere difference of opinion, or lack of personal endorsement, on certain issues is now considered tantamount to phobia/hate speech, and that is extremely concerning. Whatever the issue is, the prevailing message (at least in the loudest quarters) seems to be "if you're not for it, you're against it," which is sets up a false, extremist narrative. We should be able to practice "live and let live" and teach the values of tolerance, which is one of the most important values to practice in the real world where you will frequently interact with people who believe and act differently than you do, but have dignity and inherent worth and a valuable perspective on life to share with you.

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When a trans person cannot buy the blue and pink cake they want from one particular baker, nobody is harmed. There are plenty of other bakers who would love to bake that cake. But when a devoutly religious person is compelled to act against their faith, that person is harmed. It doesn't matter how you feel about their faith. It only matters how they feel.

When a gay couple cannot adopt from one particular agency, no one is harmed. Plenty of other agencies will help them adopt. (No gays have ever even applied to this one particular agency.) But when a religious organization is compelled to act against the tenets of its faith, that faith is harmed. Again, it doesn't matter how we feel. They are harmed regardless.

It was not about protecting the trans person from discrimination, it was about punishing the baker for his politically incorrect beliefs. And it was not about helping gay couples adopt. It was about punishing the agency for its incorrect beliefs. So toe the line, comrade, or else they will be coming for you next.

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